#oklaed Archive

This is the official Twitter account for #OklaEd, thehashtag that brings OK educators together. #OklaEd is not political & promotes constructive dialogue.

Sunday December 10, 2017
9:00 PM EST

  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    I’m so excited! I’m tweeting early!! Anne Beck, #oklaed
  • OSSBAoklahoma Dec 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Shawn Hime @OSSBAoklahoma #OklaEd
  • shawnhime - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Shawn Hime @OSSBAoklahoma #OklaEd
  • participatechat Dec 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #oklaed by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/PCV0aPd9vS
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    My name is Jason James, Supt of #AlexPS ~ #oklaed Advocate - "I have the right to remain silent, but not the ability" pretty much sums up my personal life
  • dot2teach Dec 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Hello! 4th grade teacher from Missouri #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Kevin Hime Superintendent #cpsreds #OklaEd
  • Christy_writes Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Christy Watson, mom, #oklaed advocate, @OSSBAoklahoma
  • jmidkiff Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Jason Midkiff Supt of Purcell Public Schools #oklaed #DragonPride
  • KatieKinder1 Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Katie Kinder #kcmschat 8th grade ELA Putnam City Proud #oklaed
  • HustedKelly Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Kelly Husted-Supt @ABWildcats alumni of #AlexPS #oklaed
  • MrsHime Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Steph Hime #cpsreds Elem. Curr. Dir. #oklaed
  • DewinterAmber Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    #oklaed Amber DeWinter, Cache High School
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Todd Gragg, High School History, @MCHSBombers1 #oklaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Rick Cobb, Mid-Del superintendent, #oklaed #mdpurpose
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Meghan Loyd Choir-Midwest City High School. #oklaed
  • McDonaldClay Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Clay McDonald, Principal, Piedmont Middle School #oklaed
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jack Reed, Emerson High School Principal @OKCPS #oklaed
  • KyleHilterbran Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Kyle Hilterbran-Prinicpal Clinton Middle School #cpsreds #cmsok #oklaed
  • BTerry1985 Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Brian Terry Principal Checotah High School #oklaed
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Michelle Waters, 9-11 English, Wayne High School #oklaed
  • ejbband21 Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Eric Justin Bates Band/Choir/Humanities/whatever else Oklahoma Union Schools #oklaed
  • kasnelson Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi #oklaed tweeps! Kas, Elem Lead Learner @VPSINDIANS.
  • saul02_terry Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
  • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    #oklaed Shanna Mellott, Cache, Redesigning Education One Step at a Time, @elonmusk
  • evmilnes Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Evan Milnes, Student #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    If you do not follow @Christy_writes you are missing out! She is one outstanding #oklaed leader and advocate for Ss, Ts, & school board members
  • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jennifer, HS Science #Oklaed
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Dawn Collums , director of Special ed Harding Fine Arts #OklaEd
  • FrankSolomon_4 Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Frank Solomon, Sup’t Noble #oklaed
  • mcappsparks Dec 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Melinda Parks, Westmoore High teacher and stressed OU grad student #OklaEd
  • thestephhinton Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Stephanie Hinton, Early Childhood Coordinator at OKCPS #OklaEd
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Scott Goodrich,AP at THE Ida Freeman Elem. #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • GauntTonya Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Good evening #oklaed TonyaGaunt, Clinton, OK
  • vickid864 Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Vicki Donley, ELA, Clinton Middle School, Clinton, OK. I had the privilege of working with Dr. James and his wife Amanda. #OklaEd
  • kriscoop80 Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Kristy Cooper, Del City High School, #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Kim, 4th grade T Norman public schools. Currently under 2 blankets freezing, and sick so I’ll follow along as best as I can. #oklaed
  • edgeblogger Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Rob Miller, Asst Supt, Sand Springs #oklaed
  • JanalynTaylor Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #oklaed Janalyn Taylor, Clinton principal
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Jun Kim, Dir of Tech. Moore #oklaed
  • jackson5th6th Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Kylie Jackson- 5th Reading- Clinton #oklaed
  • gabshere Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Glen Abshere, Principal Westside Elementary Claremore #Oklaed
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I follow!! 🙋🏻‍♀️ #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason, @Christy_writes
  • clayvinyard Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Clay Vinyard, principal, T-town #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    The impressive Clay Vinyard in the #oklaed house......
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    ❤️❤️❤️ your early childhood Ts!!! They are AMAZING!!! #oklaed
    In reply to @BTerry1985
  • jmidkiff Dec 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    A1) It has made my district turn to Emergency Certified Teachers, abosrbing positions, and doing without extracurricular positions filled. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Math T at NWC in @OKCPS. Lurking tonight because my semester ends on Wednesday and I have to find out who is taking finals :) #OklaEd
  • Miss_uhhh Dec 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Carol Ford, Noble HS science teacher #oklaed
  • nancy_nwilliams Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Nancy Williams - Reading Specialist - Idabel Primary South #OklaEd
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1 #oklaed We have had a hard time filling critical teaching positions. Which ones are critical? Every. Damn. One. And applicants are scarce.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1 - I might have a vastly different answer/perspective here. As an alt certified teacher I think doors were open for me to advance quicker than I might have without the shortage. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Craig Mcvay, Supt, El Reno #oklaed
  • HustedKelly Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1) Just the lack of qualified candidates has been a major problem and we’re in Tulsa!! We’ve been very lucky in finding great teachers. It’s only going to get worse before it gets better. #oklaed
  • hoffman_debbie Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Debbie Project Director Cacheps, #dodeagrants, fmr ELA tchr & 5-12 prin, educator for life #oklaed
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1: $$$ spent on re configuring classroom to handle increased numbers; more students, electrical, drops, etc. #Notsavingmoney #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Derek A. Houston, PhD Assistant Professor Ed Leadership & Policy Studies University of Oklahoma @oueducation @OU_ELPS #oklaed
  • BTerry1985 Dec 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    A1 more emergency T’s, more lay Coaches, probably settle for less effectiveness to have a class at times #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1) T shortage has threatened S learning and has been a critical deterrent to our state's future, because we will never know the true impact on the learning of Ss. #oklaed
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1) The teacher shortage leave few choices to fill vacancies. Sometimes the best fit for students is not the ones applying for the position. #oklaed
  • ejbband21 Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1) Our Choir teacher retired this summer and we got 1 applicant, so I’m now the choir teacher, which I’m not certified for. #oklaed
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1: It hasn't directly effected me in my teaching position. But I'm looking at building a strong feeder pattern. When the best Music Ed grads leaves for other states it sucks. #oklaed
  • DrewC75 Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Drew. Adair HS. US History, APUSH, Economics and BIG HISTORY. #oklaed
  • KatieKinder1 Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1- it has taken away some of my #cooperisfam it hurts when a valued member of your team leaves bc of money #oklaed
    • jmidkiff Dec 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
      A1) It has made my district turn to Emergency Certified Teachers, abosrbing positions, and doing without extracurricular positions filled. #oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
        Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • mcappsparks Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1 big classes, dissolving sections, and no one to fill the jobs we have...it’s not pretty. #OklaEd
  • Miss_uhhh Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Q1) larger class sizes #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    A1) Seems most of the newest hires have ER cert. in the district. But, due to budgets, when a T leaves, don’t always fill position #OklaEd
  • BlossJulie Dec 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Julie Bloss, Principal- Grove ECC joining in a little late. 😉#oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • JonnyCurriculum Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Checking in - Jonathan Atchley, Norman PS and @IrvingMSCougars #oklaed
  • FrankSolomon_4 Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1) Unfilled positions, consolidated positions, Emergency Certifications. #oklaed
  • rhondaschroeder Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    It has impacted our ability to be highly selective in quality. We've had to compromise quality at times. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: More money coming out of my pocket to pay for items. Also what everyone else has said #OklaEd
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #cpsreds #teachershortage has decreased applicant pools and led to emergency and alt cert teachers in the classroom #OKlaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    This is why I won't say we have "unqualified teachers" in our classrooms. We have some great alt. cert. people in Mid-Del! #oklaed
    In reply to @MatthewTGragg
  • Christy_writes Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: With a freshman and a 5th grader, I seriously worry how much worse it's going to get. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    As a ST, alt cert has affected the way we are trained. And I don't think for the better. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • JanalynTaylor Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #oklaed A1 Working harder than ever to build a climate that retains quality Ts. Plus hiring graduates in Dec. as assistants as possible Ts in fall.
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1) It’s caused us to select teachers from the smallest talent pool in OK History. Or allow Ss to be babysat by anyone off the street #oklaed
  • kriscoop80 Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: Larger classrooms, Less Electives for students #oklaed
  • DewinterAmber Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    #oklaed A1) we are all wearing a lot of hats. But we are finding ways to be creative and share what resources we have...oh what we could do with enough resources for every kid, think of the authentic experiences we could create @elonmusk
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1-Larger class sizes, and so many unfilled positions in spots like SPED. #oklaed
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1. Imagine being the Miami Marlins and the great teachers keep being recruited/traded/FA to the New York Yankees. There's still great prospects but no championships coming soon. #oklaed
  • MrsHime Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: We have emergency and alt cert teachers #oklaed
  • hoffman_debbie Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 (prior to current pos), I was forced to look for good people with interest in teaching & willingness to finish ed classes & tests. #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: Teacher shortage hurts the students. It increases class sizes. Takes away from one on one time for Ss. The students are what matter. It’s all about them. This is inexcusable! #oklaed
  • tchingelements Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hello All, Heather here 😃 PK-12 Sci Coordinator for Putnam City Schools #oklaed
  • JonnyCurriculum Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: There isn’t ever a time to be relaxed around prospective teacher candidates. As a hiring manager I’m selling myself and my school more then they are trying to impress me. #oklaed
  • HustedKelly Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    1b) We has 3 JH math teachers last year. Very tough! #oklaed
  • mcappsparks Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 also, the shortage plus the budget craziness just makes all of us feel stress #OklaEd
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    I think being in Mid-Del has had a massive impact on pushing me to grow and get better equipped. I have had wonderful examples from colleagues and admin across the district. #oklaed.
    In reply to @grendelrick
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Boom! How many Ss have had life altering, negative things happen due to predators and other acts due to not being able to hire highly effective Ts #oklaed
    • rhondaschroeder Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      It has impacted our ability to be highly selective in quality. We've had to compromise quality at times. #oklaed
      In reply to @James409Jason
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    #oklaed A1b) I don't have any concrete data yet on how alt cert has affected Ss. Do you?
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • ejbband21 Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1b) Well, I’m not real great at teaching choir so they aren’t getting as good of vocal music education as they would with a certified choir T. #oklaed
  • mrsmcreading Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1) Just an overwhelming sense of unrest. No matter what district you're in, April through August is torture. Uncertainty everywhere. #oklaed
  • vperezy Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Happy Sunday, #oklaed. Vanessa Perez #cpsreds Tech Integration & Library Media Specialist
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Statewide if number of applicants are down and qualifications lowered quality has to falter #OklaEd
  • TamiShaw2614 Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Some #free downloads from past Global Leadership Summit sessions https://t.co/BwjpaTWGyN Includes 2 of my favs #oklaed #leadupchat #GLS17
  • FrankSolomon_4 Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1) Hiring and retaining some we wouldn’t have in the past. #oklaed
  • jackson5th6th Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1- teacher shortage has made me consider testing in other subject areas, I could teach any level I wanted without the actual degree. If only I had the money for the certification tests.... #oklaed
  • Christy_writes Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: I hear lots of feedback from #oklaed leaders about growing class sizes, difficulty offering high level math/science classes & the need for more PD/support for inexperienced Ts but a lack of resources to do so. But also many are leveraging partnerships to creatively fill gaps.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    None, Alt certs are Ts with college degrees in that subject and have passed all the T exams~ we need to educate people on the differences b/t alt & emergency Ts #oklaed
    • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
      #oklaed A1b) I don't have any concrete data yet on how alt cert has affected Ss. Do you?
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
        Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    well said. Alt cert folks have great potential to do great things! Just a cert. Ts have great potential to have no impact. #oklaed
    In reply to @andredaughty
  • kasnelson Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: I’ve found it necessary to provide more support in the areas of classroom management and instruction... #oklaed
  • nancy_nwilliams Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 The teacher shortage affects us all. Who will fill the vacancies? When an unqualified person is hired, it puts more pressure on the rest of us. #OklaEd
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #OklaEd must realize we can not improve the quality of teachers while we are decreasing the quantity of Ts
  • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Forced me to change positions as my classes were no longer offered #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • jefferson_first Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Tasha 1st grade #cpsreds #oklaed
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: I’m sad to say I’m part of the shortage problem. I left the classroom for a higher paying job. If I could afford it, I’d go back to the classroom in a ❤️ beat #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    BOOM! #OklaEd
    • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
      #OklaEd must realize we can not improve the quality of teachers while we are decreasing the quantity of Ts
  • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #oklaed A1: I have more papers to grade because I have an extra class of students. It's time to start redesigning education and how we structure it. The teacher shortage is not going to be a quick fix. @elonmusk
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1b) it’s caused all of us to work hard to help them learn how to teach on the job. Many want to do well but have no idea the scope or depth of the job. #oklaed
  • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1b) I adjunct 1 class, and despite having the content knowledge, it was a struggle at first. My struggle affects my Ss’ learning. #OklaEd
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • vperezy Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Could you clarify? I would love examples. #oklaed
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1b) Currently I am fortunate not to have any of the mentioned teachers at my campus. #oklaed
  • vickid864 Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1) The state has basically said that anyone can do my job. I’m a 33 year veteran with a M.Ed., and sometimes I feel less valued as a teacher outside my district. #OklaEd
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • dot2teach Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I will retire in MO in 2019...looking to go to OK to teach. Are things looking any better for the future? #oklaed
  • Michelle_McD1 Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Michelle McDonald Curriculum Director Woodward Public Schools. #wpsboomers #oklaed
  • thestephhinton Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: larger classroom sizes, fewer qualified candidates, occasional long term subs filling in vacancies #OklaEd
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    No, but we need the help! #OklaEd
    In reply to @dot2teach
  • iRCameronBrewer Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    hey, al mcaffrey, who else did you 'grope' at the habana whilst you were in #okleg? #okwx #oklaed #okquake
  • tchingelements Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 I now have to teach Teacher Basics 101: lesson planning, instruction/timing, and classroom management; plus basic science concepts as so many Ts are e-cert #oklaed
  • DewinterAmber Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Alt cert here. 270+ hour of PD AND #21stcenturymasters with @DrTerriC. I know many alt certs who work hard and are DIVERGENT THINKERS when it comes to #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason, @DrTerriC
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I wouldn't say you are part of the problem. You responded to it, but you have to take care of you and your family. You did not create or exacerbate this problem. That's on #okleg. #oklaed
    In reply to @andredaughty, @MrsBeck25
  • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1b) It hasn’t as we haven’t used them to the best of my knowledge. #Oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Not. At. All. #oklaed
    In reply to @dot2teach
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Lauren, Pre-K teacher in @HoustonISD @FARIASECC native to Tulsa! Glad to be here to get perspectives on the states issues. #oklaed
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #oklaed A1c) I think there is a big difference. In some situations, I think the alt certs for TAs make (sometimes) far better Ts than traditional route where no one has been in a classroom before.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1b- I would imagine a lot more on the job training in classroom management and instruction. Which might work out, but might flop. That's a tough gamble. #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #OKlaed has to know that although we have numerous superstar teachers taking these alternative paths reducing the work to become a T will affect the quality of teachers
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • nancy_nwilliams Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1c. Sometimes the temp teachers are just that. They won't stay with it to become professionals. #OklaEd
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    There is a big difference from alt cert who want to become an educator and emergency cert if the person does not want to learn. Just like some cert teachers aren't "into it". No room for Generalities in OK teacher shortage. #oklaed
    In reply to @DewinterAmber, @grendelrick, @MatthewTGragg
  • vperezy Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Q2c I feel the significant difference is with emergency certified teachers. #oklaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1c #oklaed The biggest difference is in retention rates. We tend to keep traditionally certified teachers around longer. They're invested. These are trends, though - not absolutes.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • MKatemurphy Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1) I have over 30 kids in all of my classes and more get added every week. There’s no where else for them to go bc there aren’t teachers. #OklaEd
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    my wife, @451Flame is an Alt English T and an #oklaed Elem Principal........ highly effective Ts are not our problem...... people need to be educated on this issue....
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1c I am alt cert. I later received a Master’s in Secondary Social Science Education and now working on an EACS EdD. I might be an exception, but someone took a chance on me #oklaed
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #oklaed A1c) I've met more than one student T who has decided they don't want to teach after all, at the END of their student teaching! #newbies
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I am alternatively certified. In my 11th year. Was named PAMST and TOY this year. We are not all bad #OklaEd
  • MsShelton5th Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    MichelleShelton, 5th Grade Reading, Noble. #pdbearchat #oklaed
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I was thinking the same thing. This isn’t the major issue... #oklaed
  • ejbband21 Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1C) I believe any of the above can be effective, but obviously a traditional has the most “dedicated” training for the position. #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • edu_sanders70 Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: As educators, we’ve had to create triage plans to support T’s as well as provide continued, long term support in teacher growth/ supports as it pertains to student outcomes. No small feat. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    #oklaed I'll be traditionally trained, yet alt cert after being an aide for four years..... I hope to be rocking awesome like you!
    • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
      I am alternatively certified. In my 11th year. Was named PAMST and TOY this year. We are not all bad #OklaEd
  • mcappsparks Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1c I was alt cert, am now NBCT (renewed this year), and pursuing a doctoral degree in educ. A lot of short and long term success is in what you do to make yourself better, no matter where you enter the profession #OklaEd
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 cont. What makes the shortage hurt worse is vets aren't around to help guide newbies like in the past.. My 1st year had 5 newbies & over 30 +6 year vets. Now we have 2nd yr Ts as grade level chairs helping 1st yr Ts. #oklaed
  • mrsmcreading Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    1c) I've been blessed to learn so much from the alt cert Ts in Owasso. Art history majors, accountants, pastors. Lots of love for them here! #oklaed
  • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1c) The biggest difference is the pedagogy! It’s one thing to have the degree and knowledge, it’s another to try to teach it. #OklaEd
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1c: a lot of what you need to know isn’t taught in your college courses. You learn it in the field. Internships, observing, etc. college can’t teach you classroom management. Or how important it is to build relationships w/ your Ss. #oklaed
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1c: I paid a lot of money to become to a traditionally certified teacher. I'm going to be retained longer because of the investment I made. #oklaed
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1c) There are differences but in my experience, I've seen great emergency certified teachers, alternatively certified teachers, adjunct and traditional teachers. I have also seen some who were not good for students. It depends on the heart of the educator. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • kasnelson Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1c: yes, there is an immense difference, especially when looking at classroom management, teaching strategies and knowledge about the various ways Ss learn. #oklaed
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1c) As an alt cert T myself, I'd say the difference is how those people follow up their certification. If they put in the work, and they have the right support, they can become excellent Ts. If they don't, they won't. #OklaEd
  • DewinterAmber Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #oklaed A1b/c) I know many alt cert teachers who are.doing a great job...and alt cert = degree, sometimes more than one. It just means I don't have an Ed undergrad
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2 - NO. I want to tell them we have too many days of legislative session not too many school districts. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: I don't think we have to many districts, I think we have to many idiots at 23rd and Lincoln. #oklaed
  • kriscoop80 Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2: When I want to say yes, I am reminded by my rural school friends that students already traveling an hour to and from school. I could not imagine if it was longer. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #oklaed Q2) who in here has family in admin? who wants to see EVEN LESS of them. District divisions are about two things: physical distance and student population. The districts are the way they are for a reason.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    So true. The support is not like when I got certified. #OklaEd
    • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A1c) As an alt cert T myself, I'd say the difference is how those people follow up their certification. If they put in the work, and they have the right support, they can become excellent Ts. If they don't, they won't. #OklaEd
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q1- Ideally all teachers would go through a traditional ed program, but some don’t answer their “call” to teach until later in life - it doesn’t make financial sense for those people to go back & get another degree - and those people can still be effective teachers #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • KndrgartnROX Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #oklaed Jola, Mid-del, Kindergarten, Checking in late because bedtime tantrums and technical difficulties
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A2 #oklaed It's hard to argue that we have too many districts when the state keeps authorizing new charters, which by definition are separate districts. Oh, and local control, yada yada yada
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1c2) Classroom management seems to be the biggest struggle for many who didn’t go through the traditional teach edu. #OklaEd
    • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      A1c) The biggest difference is the pedagogy! It’s one thing to have the degree and knowledge, it’s another to try to teach it. #OklaEd
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
        Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Jessica Bickford jr high LMS at guymon jr high school #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    BOOM! #oklaed
    • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A2: I don't think we have to many districts, I think we have to many idiots at 23rd and Lincoln. #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Statistics say 1st year Ts are less effective the 2nd and 2nd less then 3rd so forth. Alternative paths show we are getting more and more 1st years #OklaEd
  • saul02_terry Dec 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1c certainly we could all say it depends on the person but regardless if you don't have the content knowledge & experience, there is a huge learning curve. Doubt I could get emergency certification to be a medical doctor so why a teacher. #Oklaed
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1c: The running lanes may be staggered at the start, but after awhile, the great ones surface! #oklaed
  • HustedKelly Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Absolutely not!! The number of students doesn’t decrease if the number schools decrease. As a PK-8 district we battle this every year. It gets old! #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1c: Yes. However, ALL teachers need training to remain effective and highly qualified. Okla can bridge this gap with trainings and support. #OklaEd
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Yes. I have two degrees, and I have taken all of the same tests traditionally taught Ts have taken. #OklaEd
    In reply to @DewinterAmber
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1 I am alt cert, working on my NBCT and starting a master's degree in English Ed. I wouldn't be who I am today if it weren't for the time I spent in my field. I think the impact of those certs depends on the backgrounds and intentions of the teachers. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Checking in late too because of bedtime issues - Shari, Putnam City, 11th grade English #oklaed
  • clayvinyard Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I think any brand new teacher has an effect on students. I think most would agree that we were more effective in yr 3 than he 1. We have over 1800 emergency certs in #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Good evening, just a bit late. I’m an elementary librarian in MPS #oklaed
  • DrewC75 Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2) Meh. Maybe. Maybe not. On the list of priorities for fixing education, it's low. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • kurtgmurray Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1c We have to do a tremendous amount of in service in CTE withAlt Cert and Emergency Cert teachers. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1. Emergency cert. teachers don’t understand my role and how i can be utilized more. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    True. We do have a lot of idiots. However, I have been to states with less districts. Much more efficient and effective #oklaed
  • jefferson_first Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 seems to be an excuse #okleg is using to NOT do their job. 🤷🏾‍♀️ #oklaed
  • BTerry1985 Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 How many of us have facilities to house an additional kids? #oklaed
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2- I don't think we have too many districts. Anytime I've met a supt/admin of a small district they have way more hats than just their title. #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • tchingelements Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 I find it interesting that #OkLeg say there are too many districts yet want to open more charters 🤨 #oklaed
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1C I do think there must be more training for non-traditionally certified teachers. That said, how are we going to pay for this when we can't pay for teachers? #oklaed
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2. I interpret #okleg saying that because some states do the education thing by county. Imagine ok County schools. Wouldn't that be mid-del okcps, Choctaw, Harrah, Put city, Millwood, Oakdale? #oklaed
  • KndrgartnROX Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1) I would say large classes, but in my 10 years, I don't think I've ever had "normal" #oklaed
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2) I think there may be some merit to consolidation, but consideration has to be given to local control and rural districts. It is possible to have a county office that does most admin functions and district focus on teaching. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1 The shortage is wreaking havoc and makes my job harder because of teacher turnover. We have too many new teachers, again #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #oklaed Number of district is political rhetoric. #okleg getting swamped court of public opinion #teachershortage #teacherpay.
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • jackson5th6th Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2- I honestly think there are a few too many districts. However, I don't think that got us in the financial mess we are in. My home county has 7 districts in it and is one of the smallest counties in OK. #wontsolvetheproblem #oklaed
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2) If there were less districts would class sizes be smaller? Not likely. It’s not the number of districts, it’s the number of Ss in each class that matters #oklaed
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1b. It has been a revolving door with ts leaving and replacing with subs to complete the years. SS aren’t getting quality in their classes #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Q1b) More on T shortage, how has the usage of emergency, alternative, or adjunct Ts affected Ss at your school? #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1c - I think... Is it the number of trad. cert, alt. cert, emerg. cert, etc? Or, is it where quality teachers, regardless of certification, end up teaching? Would argue that smaller school districts have dispraportionate higher emergency cert and prob. lower quality t's. #oklaed
  • jasonbengs Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 If we eliminate districts what happens to student services? Does it improve or get worse because Ss spend more time being bussed to another town? #oklaed
  • jburris8 Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    This was the first issue raised with @SenatorLankford Chief of Staff last week when I told him that I was an Oklahoma educator #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Number of districts shouldn’t play a role in decisions. Meet the needs of the students based on their location. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: What @meghanloyd said 👆🏻👆🏻#oklaed
    • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
      A2: I don't think we have to many districts, I think we have to many idiots at 23rd and Lincoln. #oklaed
  • ejbband21 Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2) I think there MIGHT be some circumstances where it would be beneficial, but I don’t personally believe that any #okleg that proposed any kind of bill regarding consolidation has done the necessary research to know which ones would benefit. #oklaed
  • jmidkiff Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2- I don't think so honestly. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2b #oklaed I believe in school choice. I don't believe in vouchers. Private schools have no accountability for academics or finances. Why would we send tax dollars there? Oh, and the church & state thing...
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • jennifer_lea_e Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2) No. But why cry that there are too many districts and at the same time open more charters? #OklaEd
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #oklaed A2: I graduated from a rural school in SW Ok. If you take away the school, the town eventually goes away. It's time to think of new ideas besides consolidation. It's time to redesign what Ss learn and give them more opportunities. @elonmusk
  • KatieKinder1 Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Agreed A2: @hemmc in #avantps is all superintendent, principal, form and grant writer and bringer of joy. We need to protect our rural schools. #oklaed
    • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
      A2- I don't think we have too many districts. Anytime I've met a supt/admin of a small district they have way more hats than just their title. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2b - I struggle with “choice”...clearly if a child has special needs that’s one thing, but for the ones that don’t - at what point is “choice” a middle finger to the families with no option for choice? #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • MsShelton5th Dec 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A1: Larger class sizes, and it makes it tough to really be selective when looking for the best of the best teachers when there’s such slim pickings to choose from! #pdbearchat #oklaed
  • Christy_writes Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Oklahoma underinvests in education -- and not by just a small amount. What could our schools do if we invested $1,500 more per student -- which his how far off we are from the regional avg? How many teachers could we keep if we paid them a competitive wage? #oklaed
    In reply to @stevelackmeyer
  • KndrgartnROX Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1b) There is a definite disparity between the quality of education between classes in the same grades #oklaed
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 I think when you consolidate districts and increase school sizes, you ultimately hurt many kids -- those kids who get lost in the crowd. At my school, I know everyone and so does the office. Our most vulnerable kids need the smaller community. #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2) Who wants the Walmart approach to education? Not me. I want my children and Ss @ #AlexPS to have a relationship with their Ts. It matters. #oklaed
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    #oklaed A2b) Until your tax dollars don't go to that school, certain schools would be over run w/o funding. When tax dollars can walk, this will be a death sentence for lower SES schools who already have trouble making ends meet and improving. School choice is...
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • kurtgmurray Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    AQ2- As much as I hate to say it, yes. Look at states with comparable populations. Status quo is not working. No need for mass consolidation, it needs to be strategic. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • MrsHime Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: There are so many things to take into account when asked if we have to many school districts in #oklaed I think it is a case by case issue
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    All educational tax dollars must be treated the same #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • MrsSearcy112 Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Yet most new teachers tend to lose efficacy between yrs 2-4 bc the first year “supports” are gone & it is assumed they are now “experts.” A 1yr teacher & 25yr veteran are given same responsibilities. We must support NEW teachers beyond Yr1 to really invest in retention. #oklaed
    In reply to @coach57
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: school consolidation seems like an easy out for #okleg. Shifting blame back onto us. It may be a solution but I doubt it’s the only solution. Just do your job! #oklaed
  • clayvinyard Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 agree with Kevin. Many districts are a major employer in their community. Loss of school could be costly to the community #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    You absolutely will surpass me! #oklaed
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Q1c. Quality teaching comes from the heart and anyone can be a good teacher if their mind is set to it. There isn’t a program out there that makes a quality teacher it’s the person #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1c) Do you believe there is a major difference between emergency, alternative, adjunct and traditional Ts? Is there a significant impact on student learning? #oklaed
  • lisarcrosslin Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Checking in late from Edmond. A2) Too many districts, unless you’re in one of the little districts. Schools are the heart of small towns and the root of their identity. #oklaed
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2b: School choice is fine with me, but do not use my tax dollars to pay for charters and private school vouchers. And if you do, they better be held to the same standard. And they should let @grendelrick into their parties. #oklaed
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2b. I'm 100% for ANY thing (and I mean absolutely anything) that will hell students. Charter, Private, Public, a school in the outdoors, academy, magnet. I love what Harlem Children's Zone has done! #oklaed
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    YES. THIS. ❤️ #OklaEd
    • Christy_writes Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Oklahoma underinvests in education -- and not by just a small amount. What could our schools do if we invested $1,500 more per student -- which his how far off we are from the regional avg? How many teachers could we keep if we paid them a competitive wage? #oklaed
      In reply to @stevelackmeyer
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Which then this has nothing to do with certification, as @DrTerriC noted. The growing inequality gaps are likely to intensify the disparities between richer & poorer school districts. #oklaed
    In reply to @DrTerriC
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Idiots, pervs, and general miscreants #okleg #oklaed
    In reply to @meghanloyd
  • jmidkiff Dec 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2b- I don't have problem with choice I have a problem with funding inequities. True equalization and funding that formula adequately would be great! #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • FrankSolomon_4 Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2) Some districts cover many miles, ours more than 130. Some are many miles apart, there is not an absolute answer. Multiple studies show minimal savings, but it’s politics at its best. #oklaed
  • dawnbrockman Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Out of the last 10 teachers of the year at our Norman High, 3 left at the end of the last school year—two to other states for higher pay and one to retirement as it pays better. We miss you @SPSheehan @SciGuyLiffy & @hemphillnhs #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A1c, I do know that School librarians who come to the job with no course training of experience teaching are more challenged than those who come from the classroom. Course training for professional educators is important #oklaed
  • mcappsparks Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 pardon my grumpy pants here, but come on....the state budget is how many billions in the hole and THIS is what the legislature is getting fussy over? Give me a break. Or better yet, do your job. #OklaEd
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2b) There are limits to the choice parents have in the choice of school for their child. Location comes to mind, but also online as opposed to traditional building. There are real factors that must be considered. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    The states I am talking about has as many schools as we do. Just not as many administrations. Think 50K for sup times 536 districts. #OklaEd
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2b-School choice is fine. I'm not okay with vouchers. Also let's level the playing field a bit, underfunded public schools have the short end of the stick. #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Consolidation won't change per pupil funding by one dollar. You still have the same amount of money divided by the same amount of students. #oklaed #okleg #distractiongame
    • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
      A2: school consolidation seems like an easy out for #okleg. Shifting blame back onto us. It may be a solution but I doubt it’s the only solution. Just do your job! #oklaed
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Hmmmm. I am sure that there is data on this. However rural areas often have people who want to come home. Community ties could be stronger. I could see it going either way. #oklaed
    In reply to @DA_Houston
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Someone needs to say the actual advantage of consolidation for #OklaEd not just use the rhetoric
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2) I teach in a consolidated district. It works well. I have no issues w/ targeted, well thought out & planned consolidations. Unfortunately, our legislators seem to think districts can just be tossed together willy-nilly and all problems will magically fix themselves. #OklaEd
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: Don't think so. If you combine moore and norman, number of Ss supported doesn't change, number of staff needed to support doesn't change. at least I hope not. #oklaed
  • dawnbrockman Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Out of the last 10 teachers of the year at Norman High, 3 left at the end of the last school year—two to other states for higher pay and one to retirement as it pays better. We miss you @SPSheehan @SciGuyLiffy & @hemphillnhs #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Q1) T Shortage is the #1 crisis in #oklaed ~ How has T shortage affected you in your job?
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2. Maybe if we can’t support these districts with qualified ts, and money an issue to keep open #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2b) We have PS choice and it is limited. We have open and emergency transfer and the sending school can’t block. We also are required to provide virtual options. #oklaed
  • MrsSearcy112 Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Yes! I always tell my candidates that they spend a total of ~45hrs/semester in my class— yet 45hrs is a normal WEEK they get in a semester long field internship. Those experiences and access to clinical faculty are a huge asset to the traditional route of certification. #oklaed
    In reply to @KimberBlodgett
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2C - Efficiency does nothing to address the fact that we as a state our broke. We do not have a spending issues. We do not have an efficiency issue. We do not have budget issues. We have a revenue issue. Specifically a lack of revenue! #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    First you have to define what you are demanding. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2b: all schools should be funded the same, have the same resources available to all students. Then you can have your choice. #oklaed when a school is preferred it’s Bc it’s funded better, has more resources. That takes away from communities of less preferred schools. #oklaed
  • jasonbengs Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2b The biggest issue I have w/school choice is how it is promoted, help the less fortunate Ss. In reality it doesn’t help them because they can’t afford to move schools even w/vouchers #oklaed
  • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2) I think it is funny that the same people who are promoting “school choice” are saying we have too many districts. Doesn’t eliminating districts cut down on the amount of “choices” those parents/students have? #Oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2b. Choice is always better for the consumer not the business/school #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • cbryan1966 Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #oklaed A2) the nmbr of districts isn't the issue, state aid is calculated per student. Other states want to copy our formula. The okleg keeps pushing more charters, etc. The nmbr of districts isn't the issue...or discussion would be too many legislative districts too...
  • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    #oklaed A2b: School choice should be about giving students more choices in the curriculum, where the curriculum matches their strengths, interests, and possible career choices. Those choices should be offered in every type of school. @elonmusk
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Is this assertion or truth? School choice is the death knell for poor school districts. All kinds of capital leaves with the student -> economic, social, and cultural. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    YES. #OklaEd
    • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
      #oklaed A2b: School choice should be about giving students more choices in the curriculum, where the curriculum matches their strengths, interests, and possible career choices. Those choices should be offered in every type of school. @elonmusk
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Parents exercise school choice when they decide where to live. If you can afford to live in Edmond or Moore or even Norman, you've made a choice. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2b when I hear parents talk about their choices too many times the words are hear are worrisome. Parents’ choices are too often detrimental to children’s learning. A parent that wants a child educated w others like themselves, I feel our communities will be weakened #oklaed
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    YES! This is exactly what we should be offering. We should be investing in our children and their futures. #oklaed
    • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
      #oklaed A2b: School choice should be about giving students more choices in the curriculum, where the curriculum matches their strengths, interests, and possible career choices. Those choices should be offered in every type of school. @elonmusk
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Drop the mic #OklaEd
    • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
      Parents exercise school choice when they decide where to live. If you can afford to live in Edmond or Moore or even Norman, you've made a choice. #oklaed
      In reply to @James409Jason
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2b - we wouldn’t need choice if we would just fund schools and pay teachers.....come onnnnnnn peopleeeee!!! If we still think we do, than we are really saying we don’t want our kids around “those kids” #letsberealhere #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Truth....... #oklaed has school choice now, Ps choose where to send their children
    In reply to @DA_Houston
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2c #oklaed Cries into the air and rhetorical questions about efficiency just distract from the current 7 year reign of failed leadership. Show me the waste. Show me the extravagance.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Angela Clark Little - late again. Is there a way someone could give me a reminder text about 7:45pm each Sunday? ;) #oklaed ADVOCATE & @EdmondSchools Mom!!
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A2c) Desires for efficiency by taxpayers or school boards that do not have an understanding of education is bad for the state. Schools are not factories and that analogy hurts our students and has for years. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Q2c. Why can’t our state have both cost effectiveness and good public schools? Do other states have to make an either/or choice too? #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • MrsSearcy112 Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    So certified teachers are now “forced” to become the mentors to those who have no/little experience= even more job responsibilities added because of teacher shortage crisis. And it’s usually the new ones who are now the “experts” because 3yrs might= longevity in dept. #oklaed
    In reply to @tchingelements
  • Christy_writes Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Having looked at the data, #oklaed actually has fewer administrators when you look at the student-to-admin ratio at the district level. A lot of our administrators are pulling double and triple duty.
    In reply to @thnorfar
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    The better teachers want to work in the better "environments", ones that may allow them to work with "better" students. The "better" schools have more "choice" even if salaries are the same. #oklaed
    In reply to @DrTerriC
  • vperezy Dec 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I haven’t heard of that. I wouldn’t be too happy about it, is this at all schools? @DrTerriC #oklaed
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach, @DrTerriC
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • lisarcrosslin Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q2c) You get what you pay for. #oklaed
  • edu_sanders70 Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I just feel like consolidation is specific to the school in need. Almost like purchasing a canned program. Definitely not for everyone/small district. One size fits one. 🤷🏾‍♂️ #OKlaed
    In reply to @coach57
  • dawnbrockman Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    We are operating on pre-2008 funding—PLEASE. How much more efficient can we be?!?? #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Don’t shoot. I think we caused this wanting choice problem. Too many genuine bad experiences and we let it happen #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    How much choice does a small town parent have? You're in Alex. Doesn't look like there's much choice to be had there, right? #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    There's no place for facts in the political rhetoric, Christy! #oklaed
    In reply to @Christy_writes, @thnorfar
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A2b: There is a reason why even the King got rid of "have it your way" of thinking and serving... there has to be a reasonable limit. #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Like emergency and alt certs #OklaEd has some good charters and some really bad ones. As long as they follow rules protecting the $$ and kids I am ok with
  • iRCameronBrewer Dec 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    all-knowing steve lackmeyer. because, pairing a grade 2 with a grade 5 yields -- not #sucklahoma #okwx #oklaed #okleg #okquake
    • iRCameronBrewer Dec 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
      #qanda; what's wrong with oklahoma? well, steve lackmeyer is a problem. kunyung 'sponsorships' preps/:\juniors:
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Depends on the professor or school. I don't let graduate students take my undergrad courses for an extra paper. But others do. I have a special masters class offered once a year.#oklaed
    In reply to @vperezy, @BrightstarTeach
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3. I'll repeat this. I'm for ANY school that will help our students whether it'd be a public, private, charter, catholic, magnet, someone in their backyard creating a school Sunday school, VBS too! Our Ss deserve more success. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    #OkLeg doesn’t get that. I don’t now why but they don’t get that. #OklaEd
    • dawnbrockman Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      We are operating on pre-2008 funding—PLEASE. How much more efficient can we be?!?? #oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
        Q2c) School Choice vs Demands for cost effectiveness? Are the desires of taxpayers to maximize efficiency good or bad for our state? #oklaed
  • vperezy Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    We, the teachers? We, the voters? #oklaed
    • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
      Don’t shoot. I think we caused this wanting choice problem. Too many genuine bad experiences and we let it happen #oklaed
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I'm relatively new to the history of education. Are you saying Ts caused this? Or the system? The lack of funding? Something else? #oklaed
    In reply to @thnorfar
  • tchingelements Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A2 Ps already have a choice 🙄 I find how it’s promoted is misleading and preys on those that don’t understand #oklaed
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 - There are some good charters, but overall they represent a move away from equitable education to everyone. They do not play by the same rules. How fair would we find it if UGA only had to get 7.5 yards for a 1st down and OU 15 in the Rose Bowl? #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • jackson5th6th Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: Don't know a whole lot on charter schools, but we toured a few during my intro to ed class in college and I liked them. The ones we saw served low ses students, had terrible facilities, and had wonderful teachers. Don't know all the behind the scenes stuff though. #oklaed
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A2) I say get our per pupil funding up to regional average and then we can discuss these big ideas people seem to have for public ed. Consolidation doesn’t change the # of students and $ saved would be a drop in a very large bucket!! #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2) Truth Serum: Does #oklaed have too many school districts? What is your answer when #okleg keeps bringing up this issue?
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3) A Charter School working in partnership with a school district can be beneficial for both. However, most charter schools serve their self-interests first and the students' second. In those cases, they drain resources. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • jssclynn Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3. Public schools were designed to keep the country educated upon its conception but our founders couldn’t foresee what public schools have now. #okleg should be looking to make public appealing to ps instead of holding the purse strings #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I do have issues with for profit schools #oklaed
    • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
      Like emergency and alt certs #OklaEd has some good charters and some really bad ones. As long as they follow rules protecting the $$ and kids I am ok with
  • jburris8 Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Oklahoma Charter Schools provide school choice for Ss who need something different that what they are currently being offered, but are still held accountable like public schools. Be very careful not to confuse charter schools with school vouchers #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Find the least resourced schools and they're more likely than not being efficient. Neither school choice nor cost effectiveness will make up for the lack of state investments in public education. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    It isn't a one paper difference. It is an entire degree difference. An alt cert T already has at least a bachelors. #OklaEd
    In reply to @vperezy, @BrightstarTeach, @DrTerriC
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Sorry. I wasn’t meaning principals. I was talking about sups. Every district has 1. There are over 500 districts in the state. #OklaEd
    In reply to @grendelrick, @Christy_writes
  • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3) If charter schools want to take funds away from public education then they should have to adhere to the same rules, regulations, accreditations and testing of public education. #Oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I actually would take the scrappy teachers at a #low# school any day. Some of the best teachers I've known have been at a low performing school, because they are already discounted and can be creative and teach under the radar. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @DA_Houston
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    tagging to come back to this #mpschat #oklaed
    In reply to @watersenglish, @thnorfar
  • clayvinyard Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3) I have seen great and horrible charter schools. It really depends on the people. I think that they are fine, but must be held accountable the same as public schools #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • nancy_nwilliams Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A2 Are they equating efficiency with best practices? The public needs to understand that children are not widgets. They come to us with a variety of needs and abilities. They can all learn to be productive citizens, but they will not all be college graduates. #OklaEd
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3- The idea of for profit schools is hard for me to swallow. If a charter school were to work alongside a public school, I think it would work well. #oklaed
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Don't group me on that statement. I would not concur #Oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @DA_Houston
  • MrsBeck25 - Moderator Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3. I will only say this from personal experience... they can get rid of Ts at will when public schools can’t. Still waiting on my bonus check. Very convenient timing #oklaed
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    This!!!!!!! #oklaed
    • jburris8 Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
      Oklahoma Charter Schools provide school choice for Ss who need something different that what they are currently being offered, but are still held accountable like public schools. Be very careful not to confuse charter schools with school vouchers #oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
        Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: I have an issue with for profit charter schools like those of our dearly beloved Cruella DeVos. If charters use public funded dollars they need to be held to the same standard our public schools are held too. #oklaed
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A2b) Parents should choose where their kids go to school but our tax dollars should never be sent to private institutions that do not adhere to the same accountability as the rest who receive this money. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Q2b) Many in #oklaed acknowledge school choice; Ps should be able to choose the right school for their children. Does this choice have limits?
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A3: I wouldn’t have a problem with charters if I knew for sure every student had an equal chance at getting in. I care about the students. That’s my priority. Is it fair how you select your students? #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Glad you do but you're more likely the exception than the rule. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @DrTerriC
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Q3b) Currently, there is a lawsuit challenging the way charter schools are funded in Oklahoma. Charter schools contend they should receive state dedicated monies, building fund, etc. Valid or way off base? #oklaed
  • jburris8 Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Charter schools do have to adhere to the same rules, regulations, accreditations and testing of public education #oklaed
    • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
      A3) If charter schools want to take funds away from public education then they should have to adhere to the same rules, regulations, accreditations and testing of public education. #Oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
        Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • WendyPratt234 Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Charters are not the enemy. Ignorance of how difficult it is for any school to be successful and cost effective is the problem. #OklaEd
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • AssignmentHelpN Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
  • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    #oklaed A3: Any idea that takes away the educational opportunities of my children and students is going down the wrong road and not acceptable. Instead of creating more schools, it's time to redesign the schools that we have: curriculum, structure, and opportunities. @elonmusk
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Right. Budget cuts are affecting higher ed too. We are running bigger numbers and having to combine things more. #oklaed
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach, @vperezy
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    And isn’t a charter picking a specific location to start up in a way pre selecting the students they want there?! #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    We the teachers. All of us had bad teachers when we were students. They weren’t let go and they should be. People are reacting to that I think #oklaed
    In reply to @vperezy
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Thank you! #oklaed
    In reply to @angmlittle
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3) In Oklahoma they do, Charter School law in Oklahoma is very different from other states. We are very very non profit. #oklaed
    • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A3- The idea of for profit schools is hard for me to swallow. If a charter school were to work alongside a public school, I think it would work well. #oklaed
  • MsShelton5th Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A2b; so true! Especially when the arts are eliminated because there’s no money to pay for teachers, they should have more choices, not less!! #pdbearchat #oklaed
    • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
      #oklaed A2b: School choice should be about giving students more choices in the curriculum, where the curriculum matches their strengths, interests, and possible career choices. Those choices should be offered in every type of school. @elonmusk
  • bakerleft Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
  • Michelle_McD1 Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    How do we recruit students into the teaching profession? Woodward has the Teach Oklahoma program, but our numbers are small. #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Public dollars going to private hands with no accountability. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Lack of funding is a bigger #OklaEd issue then charter schools
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    they are #OklaEd
    • clayvinyard Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A3) I have seen great and horrible charter schools. It really depends on the people. I think that they are fine, but must be held accountable the same as public schools #oklaed
      In reply to @James409Jason
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A3b) Unless the Charters are in partnership with districts and agree to the same standards that every school is held to for funding then they are way off base. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
      Q3b) Currently, there is a lawsuit challenging the way charter schools are funded in Oklahoma. Charter schools contend they should receive state dedicated monies, building fund, etc. Valid or way off base? #oklaed
  • EdPsych8 Dec 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Checking in. Better late than never. Andrea Crowe, Asst. Principal at Norman PS #OklaEd
  • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A3 Not a fan #oklaed
  • dawnbrockman Dec 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Q3 Honestly, I think charters challenge us to up our game and currently they are only taking cost per student as far as funding goes. But in @OKCPS I question whether the district prefers charters and whether they support their public schools or are replacing them. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I hope more people understand that we already have school choice. It also never ceases to amaze me when people try to say this is a conservative value. Since when is having no idea where your tax money is being used considered conservative? #oklaed
    In reply to @MPSTechnology
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q3c) What do you think about virtual charter schools? Are Ss getting an education? Are these for profit schools good for #oklaed?
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Do you already have a bachelors? #OklaEd
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach, @vperezy, @DrTerriC
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    No they are not. Charters, for one, do not have to have certified teachers. There was a major article recently in the Oklahoman about this very fact. A public district in OKC is converting to a charter to keep emergency cert teachers. #oklaed
    In reply to @collums_dawn
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3) They do! We do all the same testing on the same standards as all the other public schools in Oklahoma. #oklaed
    • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
      A3) If charter schools want to take funds away from public education then they should have to adhere to the same rules, regulations, accreditations and testing of public education. #Oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
        Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • jburris8 Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Preach 🙌🏽 #oklaed
    • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A3) In Oklahoma they do, Charter School law in Oklahoma is very different from other states. We are very very non profit. #oklaed
      • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
        A3- The idea of for profit schools is hard for me to swallow. If a charter school were to work alongside a public school, I think it would work well. #oklaed
  • MPSTechnology Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3b: This would require me to provide additional technology; network, equipment, etc, but no additional funding to do so. Can someone pay for my rent and utilities? #oklaed
  • dougeb00 Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3: Creating more charter schools while closing public schools doesn’t make since. If CS methods are so great mandate those methods for Public #oklaed
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3b. Fair. Once again, I'm for ANY school really trying to help our students. #oklaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3b #oklaed Charters are exempt from many of the rules (and protections for students and teachers) that traditional public schools have. They knew before they began operation that they were also exempt from certain funding streams.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
      Q3b) Currently, there is a lawsuit challenging the way charter schools are funded in Oklahoma. Charter schools contend they should receive state dedicated monies, building fund, etc. Valid or way off base? #oklaed
  • JonnyCurriculum Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I’m sorry but for several reasons this is not true. #oklaed
    In reply to @jburris8
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Both. We all had bad Ts that were never let go. Ts didn’t hold other Ts responsible and neither did the system. I believe current Ps remember and want better for their kids. They don’t trust Ts or current system to prevent bad Ts #oklaed
    In reply to @watersenglish
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Hey guys sorry if I am only getting part of the convo. I was grabbing a monthly chat on another topic til I was tagged. #oklaed
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I think this school could be making the best decision for their students based on all of the variables but this is just one way charters are not held to the exact same standard as public. #oklaed
    In reply to @collums_dawn
  • jasonbengs Dec 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A3 As with anything there are good and bad some charters are vital parts of their community and have seen success where others have not. We should be learning from those successes #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Again, I don't disagree with this statement. But, if this was true for all teachers, why are less-resourced schools more likely to have teachers with lower years of experience? Doesn't make them bad t's but great t's usually have more options to leave. #oklaed
    In reply to @posthard, @DrTerriC, @ShariGateley
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A3b cont. Elephant in the room. Charters get to teach what they want how they want and be held accountable for their own actions based on their own board. Not as much political shenanigans from public boards. #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Ouch. I am very wary of any #oklaed school that gets paid for 3 times as many students as they test.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q3c) What do you think about virtual charter schools? Are Ss getting an education? Are these for profit schools good for #oklaed?
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Considering the large number of emer cert granted by the OKSDE this year, charters are not the only ones finding them necessary. What other requirements are different? #oklaed
    • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
      No they are not. Charters, for one, do not have to have certified teachers. There was a major article recently in the Oklahoman about this very fact. A public district in OKC is converting to a charter to keep emergency cert teachers. #oklaed
      In reply to @collums_dawn
  • MsShelton5th Dec 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I think the best way is for them to actually see teachers that love their jobs, love and respect the kids, and respect each other! (Even when things aren’t so rosy) If all they see is negativity, griping and whining, who can blame them for passing on teaching! #oklaed #pdbearchat
    • Michelle_McD1 Dec 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
      How do we recruit students into the teaching profession? Woodward has the Teach Oklahoma program, but our numbers are small. #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I don't disagree with this statement. #oklaed
    In reply to @DrTerriC, @ShariGateley
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3c) I think virtual charter schools are providing a different and needed service for students who can’t be in the classroom for various reasons. They shouldn’t be looked at as competition with brick and mortar schools. They are serving different types of students. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q3c) What do you think about virtual charter schools? Are Ss getting an education? Are these for profit schools good for #oklaed?
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I experienced that too. When I got my PhD I had to do a second Masters because my masters in computer science didn't "count". #oklaed
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach, @ChrisParadise, @vperezy
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
    One of the very few differences, despite what people think #oklaed
    • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
      I think this school could be making the best decision for their students based on all of the variables but this is just one way charters are not held to the exact same standard as public. #oklaed
      In reply to @collums_dawn
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A3b cont. Another elephant... They also can/could dismiss students back to home schools, which could mean dismissing troubled students and only keeping non-troubled students. #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
      My problem with Virtual Charters is this: Why do they get to make a profit? Wouldn't it be in the taxpayers best interest for them to spend all the money they have to educate the S?
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I would guess even the for profit charter school that is testing 35% of students they get paid for has a few good teachers that care #OklaEd
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A3c) It depends on the student. I receive many students who went virtual for a while then discovered they needed the discipline of a school with teachers. These virtual schools are not interested at the corporate level in student education. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Q3c) What do you think about virtual charter schools? Are Ss getting an education? Are these for profit schools good for #oklaed?
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Then you are probably in the same spot academically, and the problem is in the beuracracy. But that is not a reason someone with a degree that was accepted should not receive the advanced degree. I do understand your frustration though. #OklaEd
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach, @vperezy, @DrTerriC
  • dougeb00 Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A3c: NO it virtual charters are not good for #oklaed students and deadly to Public Ed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Most are dismissed in October or November is my guess #oklaed
    • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
      A3b cont. Another elephant... They also can/could dismiss students back to home schools, which could mean dismissing troubled students and only keeping non-troubled students. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A3c - I have had multiple students who came from virtual charter schools - they don’t earn the credits they need & don’t know the material of the credits they “earned” - to me they are nothing but a $$ making scam #oklaed
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Fair enough. #oklaed
    In reply to @ShariGateley, @posthard, @DrTerriC
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    That is because Teachers are the greatest educational tool ever invented! #OklaEd
    • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      A3c) It depends on the student. I receive many students who went virtual for a while then discovered they needed the discipline of a school with teachers. These virtual schools are not interested at the corporate level in student education. #oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
        Q3c) What do you think about virtual charter schools? Are Ss getting an education? Are these for profit schools good for #oklaed?
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    What testing requirements and other than the cert issue do charters not have to follow? Have you read the OK charter school law? #oklaed
    • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
      Any district can hire emergency certified teachers. There are limits and guidelines for retaining those teachers for public schools. They are not the same for charter. Plain and simple, is different rules. Not the same level of accountability! #okaed
      In reply to @collums_dawn
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Discipline guidelines are different. Testing guidelines are different. Curriculum standards can be vastly altered based on the local board. Completely different set of rules! #oklaed
    In reply to @collums_dawn
  • BrightstarTeach Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    #oklaed match Texas. Kansas. Any surrounding state.
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A3c: all I know is we have many different types of students (children) in the world. Not all prefer a classroom setting. If they learn better virtually then why not?! Are we not taught to accommodate each student? It’s about them, not us. I think we lose sight of that. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    So so true. However, this doesn’t mean they are always doing the right thing. We have to get better at educating what is a good education. Letter grade is not always true #OklaEd
    In reply to @andredaughty
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A3b cont. Elephant #3, Many pay more money and manageable Ss per class due to cap of students... Which many teachers would love! #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4) If we don't give Ts a $10,000 raise immediately and get them to $45,000 in the first 5 years of service we will never reverse the tide of T shortage #oklaed
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A3) it’s a case by case basis and a blanket statement can’t be made about all charters. There are some I support and some I don’t. You have to look at their dynamic and make sure they are educating children for free and not for profit. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • chong2087 Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A1: I do not think that certifications determine the quality of a teacher. Dedication, growth, love, and care are things that cannot be taught in the classroom regardless if you are traditionally certified or not. These are just as important as teaching. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4: I just want to be to pay my bills without having to work 20 hours of retail to make the ends meet. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    So much for me lurking LOL. I am going to be up late. Did we ever get anything other than Q3? #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4 - I think $5,000 to start just to show good faith, but I don’t think that will keep people here long term as other states continue to increase. We need to push north of $10,000 in the next five years #oklaed
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4. #realtalk, this would be the only one we'd get so go big. $12k - $15k over 2 years. #oklaed
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    What testing guidelines are different? As the current District Test Coordinator who has been trained, by the SDE, someone forgot to tell me ........#oklaed
    • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
      Discipline guidelines are different. Testing guidelines are different. Curriculum standards can be vastly altered based on the local board. Completely different set of rules! #oklaed
      In reply to @collums_dawn
  • ConsultJodi Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Many career changers can be very beneficial for school districts. Career changers = a different pool of contacts, a different pool of $$$. (Think business support!) Public school leaders need to think like independent school leaders. #oklaed
    In reply to @DrTerriC, @ShariGateley, @DA_Houston
  • DrTerriC Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Bureaucracy in higher education? #oklaed
    In reply to @ChrisParadise, @BrightstarTeach, @vperezy
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    #oklaed HS students are not even glancing at T as a profession..... Those who do, leave the state or leave the profession chasing $. How do you take a job here for $10,000 less than one 4 hours from here?
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    So true. More schools with the same money is always a drain on resources. #oklaed
    • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
      A3) it’s a case by case basis and a blanket statement can’t be made about all charters. There are some I support and some I don’t. You have to look at their dynamic and make sure they are educating children for free and not for profit. #oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
        Q3) Charter Schools: What is your take? Are they good for #oklaed or drain on precious recourses?
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4 Talking to my @SNU_MAEL grad students, somewhere between $5,000 and $10,000. But money alone isn't the problem. Politicians need to show more respect for the profession and quit with the senseless mandates already. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason, @SNU_MAEL
  • nancy_nwilliams Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A3 How can the leg parcel out money to these other schools when the public schools are dying? or is that the point? Where will our state be without strong public ed? #OklaEd
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4) Regional average is a good goal in my opinion. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • Mrs_Ledford Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    YES. This issue is the biggest of them all. #OklaEd
    • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
      Lack of funding is a bigger #OklaEd issue then charter schools
  • ScottGoodrich_ Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4- No matter what a pay raise would amount to, #oklaed will be feeling the ripples of this teacher shortage for a looooong time.
  • dougeb00 Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Why should #oklaed strive to be average? Why do we continue to settle for regional average? Why can’t we lead for a change?
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4) Starting to lose interest in this topic. The more that we talk about it without anything being done discourages me, and I am sure my fellow colleagues. We know we are worth more, but unfortunately #Okleg does not. #Oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4) I have one teacher leaving to become a lawyer to make more money. I have a secretary who isn't able to sponsor her husband as an immigrant to the USA due to $$$. I have at least three teachers working two jobs. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • lisarcrosslin Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Q4) When a new teacher grad with 0 experience can make $52k in TX, it’s hard to compete. But, T retention is about more than money. Ts need to feel valued and that their work is meaningful. OU is getting creative with incentives to keep our grads here. #oklaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    I'm a father of three (22, 20, 18). How can I tell my kids they should stay in this state for ANYTHING? #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A4: 10,000 will be able to keep me in Oklahoma, if that doesn't happen. Good bye. I will take my fabulousness to a state that will pay me and respect me. Or leave the profession all together. At the end of the day, I have to take care of myself. #Oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Too many parents don’t know how to take that on. It is also just more common for people to run away-hence charters, voucher movement. #oklaed
    In reply to @watersenglish
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I know, right! That can't be true! #OklaEd
    In reply to @DrTerriC, @BrightstarTeach, @vperezy
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A4) we should pay Ts same as NM, AR and KS. Same cost of living and tax base. We are ten years behind AR now. It will take 9K now. #oklaed
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A4 - Honestly. $15,000. Why settle for regional average when we believe we are the best in the region? #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
      Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Then you are a quitter and I don't understand that....... j/k....... but we can't lose interest, that is what our POLs want... for us to stop paying attention. #OklaEd
    • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
      A4) Starting to lose interest in this topic. The more that we talk about it without anything being done discourages me, and I am sure my fellow colleagues. We know we are worth more, but unfortunately #Okleg does not. #Oklaed
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
        Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    AMEN!!! #oklaed
    In reply to @grendelrick, @James409Jason, @SNU_MAEL
  • jaxtell123 Dec 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Teacher pay is part of the problem....needs to be at least $5 K to make a difference. Education funding needs to be addressed as well! Teachers are being asked to do too much with too little! #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason, @OklaEd
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q4b) Is T pay an indication of your worth? Is pay a matter of Respect? What do you need to stay in #oklaed and retire in your chosen job duties?
  • tchingelements Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4 It’ll need to be AT LEAST $5,000; anything less will be used up in taxes and not worth it. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4: Given the possible new tax plan. It doesn’t matter how much. I won’t get to see much of it anyway #OklaEd
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Need an engaging lesson for your students as the holidays approach? Have your kids rewrite The Gift of the Magi! https://t.co/qTuQtpnZ0W #oklaed #teachingenglish #tlap
  • dougeb00 Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Try 20 minutes away in two different directions! Arkansas, Texas even Louisiana from #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
      #oklaed HS students are not even glancing at T as a profession..... Those who do, leave the state or leave the profession chasing $. How do you take a job here for $10,000 less than one 4 hours from here?
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Have you met the Oklahoma legislature and the majority holding party. They don't care. It will never happen. #oklaed
    In reply to @MatthewTGragg
  • chong2087 Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4: I think it is going to take a lot more than money to keep people in the teaching profession period. We need support from the community and from the politicians if we are to turn the tide in this battle. #OklaEd
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • collums_dawn Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A3)Charters in Oklahoma are public schools and hold public school students in need of funding for their education as much as any other public school in Oklahoma #oklaed
    • nancy_nwilliams Dec 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
      A3 How can the leg parcel out money to these other schools when the public schools are dying? or is that the point? Where will our state be without strong public ed? #OklaEd
  • KndrgartnROX Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4) Min. 10k more. I'd like to pay off student loans someday, or a car, or own a house...you know, all the things my single friends outside of education have done #oklaed
  • TurnerJoshuaD Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    I wouldn’t be the first to quit. I mean look at the guy who started #teachlikeme maybe a better hashtag would have been #leavelikeme #Oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4 It will take a serious raise for teachers to stop fleeing, $5000-10,000 AND a more respectful attitude from Legislature. Teachers are leaving for more money AND tired of being treated poorly by too many. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    I like where your head is at. Unfortunately, we don’t have a lot of heads like ours :(. #oklaed
    • dougeb00 Dec 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
      Why should #oklaed strive to be average? Why do we continue to settle for regional average? Why can’t we lead for a change?
      • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
        Q4) T pay: many have proposed a T pay raise. What is the true number to stem the tide of Ts leaving the profession or leaving to other states? What is your real number? #oklaed
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4: we keep losing Ts to neighboring states so my suggestion maybe at least come a little closer to what they pay?! But honestly, the lack of pay stems from lack of respect. Let’s start there. #oklaed
  • FrankSolomon_4 Dec 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A4) We have so many that leave school and head to their 2nd job every day. Very discouraging that we can’t do more. 5K, 10K, they deserve I️t! #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    If #OklaEd Ts were given a $20,000 raise today. They would still start at $5,000 less then Frisco Ts
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A4) I misunderstood the question. Pay teachers comparable to teachers in California, Ohio, and New York. Our teachers do the same work for a third less. #oklaed
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    My boyfriend is a great teacher who is leaving the profession. For him it is the pay and the lack of respect. And having 6 preps as a result of losing teachers because of budget cuts. #oklaed
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A4b) Teachers need to be respected monetarily and professionally. Our state has stopped trusting them to assess students and now rely on test scores to do the assessing on top of paying them in beans. This has to change!! #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q4b) Is T pay an indication of your worth? Is pay a matter of Respect? What do you need to stay in #oklaed and retire in your chosen job duties?
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A4b - It is absolutely a matter of respect. I stay because of three huge regions. 1. Family - my parents live 4 miles away and my mom helps with daycare. 2. I work in an amazing district with great leadership. 3. Bought a new house 18 months ago #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q4b) Is T pay an indication of your worth? Is pay a matter of Respect? What do you need to stay in #oklaed and retire in your chosen job duties?
  • EdPsych8 Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A4) TBH, $10,000. $ needs come with more overall support for ed though (per pupil spending; T ret programs) #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Absolutely! That is what I think we do now but that was not the norm for a lot of people who are making decisions now. I even help people find a new profession if it seems like mentoring doesn’t help #OklaEd
    In reply to @watersenglish
  • vperezy Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    I have a History BA and am Ed Masters. Honestly don’t know that I would have become a teacher if I’d had to get back and get an Ed BA. #oklaed
    In reply to @BrightstarTeach, @ChrisParadise, @DrTerriC
  • dougeb00 Dec 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    It is a matter of competition! Pay will encourage the best educators to run TO #oklaed not FROM it
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q4b) Is T pay an indication of your worth? Is pay a matter of Respect? What do you need to stay in #oklaed and retire in your chosen job duties?
  • jasonbengs Dec 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    After taxes that 5k ends up being about $200 a month. Fuel costs have gone up that much in the time since the last raise #oklaed
  • lsmellott Dec 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    #oklaed A4: I have taught for 27 years, and the raise would have to be significant to make a difference. Teachers need a stipend each year, more money for higher college degrees or training, and paid health insurance for spouse and children.
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A4. No teacher should HAVE to work 2 or 3 jobs + summer school (or intersessions) just to be a part of the working poor. #never #oklaed
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Q5) How is your #okleg doing? Don't hold back. Do they support #oklaed? Are they doing a good job? Are they BSC?
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I think the raise is more about respect then $$ for many #oklaed Ts
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q4b) Is T pay an indication of your worth? Is pay a matter of Respect? What do you need to stay in #oklaed and retire in your chosen job duties?
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I know I wouldn't have. I have a BA and a JD I'm still paying for. #OklaEd
    In reply to @vperezy, @BrightstarTeach, @DrTerriC
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A4b: more pay would curb some frustrations for teachers. It would show effort & the beginning of a working relationship between #oklaed/#okleg it would attract the best teachers. #oklaed
  • kasnelson Dec 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    @mikeasanders Want to invite you to study the tweets in the #oklaed chat. Not just tonight, but every Sunday. Our state's educators have great ideas, and most importantly, know first-hand what is best for #oklaed kids.
    • lisa3moon Dec 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
      A4 It will take a serious raise for teachers to stop fleeing, $5000-10,000 AND a more respectful attitude from Legislature. Teachers are leaving for more money AND tired of being treated poorly by too many. #oklaed
  • mrsmcreading Dec 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A4b) I feel kind of like this sometimes. "Why pay teachers for something anyone could do?" said #oklaleg. "Because if we don't, no one will," said #OKlaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4. I know we have been asking for $5000 to negotiate. I say we get the same raise as legislatures. Every year and above inflation rates. #oklaed
  • ShariGateley Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Aq5 - The answer to this question is not twitter appropriate😂😂😂#oklaed
  • ChrisParadise Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Oops...that's BBA, not BA. #OklaEd
    In reply to @vperezy, @BrightstarTeach, @DrTerriC
  • KndrgartnROX Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4b) An indication of worth, no. A matter of respect, yes. Would love to teach kinder for the rest of my life, currently I would need another source of income to do it. #OklaEd
  • posthard Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4. How many on here know a T that has left? Daughter in 3rd year, 1 in OKC 2 in Austin area making close to what an 18 year vet does with several coaching stipends. Sad. #oklaed
  • coach57 Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    #cpsreds lucky our House member votes #oklaed. Although we felt our senator waiver he has been strong during the special
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
      Q5) How is your #okleg doing? Don't hold back. Do they support #oklaed? Are they doing a good job? Are they BSC?
  • chong2087 Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4b: Retirement??? That still exists??? Yes, pay is an indication of how others perceive me to be worth and it is also associated with respect. Unfortunately, for Oklahoma, there not much of either. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • meghanloyd Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5: I'm a classy lady. I won't say how I really feel. #oklaed
  • jlreed2011 Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A4b) Pay has never been my motivator. I love what I do so the money is a bonus for me. However, realistically if the pay is your only motivation or measure of success then I will reserve my comments because it's personal for each person. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q4b) Is T pay an indication of your worth? Is pay a matter of Respect? What do you need to stay in #oklaed and retire in your chosen job duties?
  • EricaLStuck Dec 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Yes, but pay can be in other ways such as free college tuition for my kids. #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • KimberBlodgett Dec 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks for the chat @James409Jason very informative! I gotta go I have an upset 1 year old! #oklaed
  • mcvay51 Dec 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5) both were freshmen this year. They want to help but have not been in the power. Will change when they find their way around. #oklaed
  • MatthewTGragg Dec 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A5 - Mine is an independent oil and gas well owner...so he is part of the big oil problem attacking education. #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
      Q5) How is your #okleg doing? Don't hold back. Do they support #oklaed? Are they doing a good job? Are they BSC?
  • angmlittle Dec 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5) Several of us Edmond Moms who are extremely active can’t get our Rep to respond to any of us but my Senator, @stephaniebice🍎, is fantastic, responsive and truly cares about #oklaed
    • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
      Q5) How is your #okleg doing? Don't hold back. Do they support #oklaed? Are they doing a good job? Are they BSC?
  • watersenglish Dec 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A4b I think our pay is a reflection of the value our society places both on us and on education as a whole. #oklaed
  • thnorfar Dec 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5. I am researching my new leg. Loved my old one. Right now, I am frustrated with local and national leg. Really considering leaving the US #oklaed
  • grendelrick Dec 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A5 #oklaed #okleg I typed "abject failure" into the GIF bar and got this. It'll do.
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • James409Jason Dec 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A5) @senator_scott & @senatorpaxton are both amazing #oklaed supporters...... I'm a big, big fan of Rep Leslie Osborne and Rep Rhonda Baker..... We need more of them....... #oklaed
  • andredaughty Dec 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A4. Cont. If Ts made $60k, they would have MORE time to plan and focus on Ss vs leaving the school with their Macy's name tag on ready to work another 5-6 hour shift. One teacher lesson plans in the Ross work room. #realtalk #oklaed
  • cbryan1966 Dec 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Q5A) What other position do you get paid for NOT doing your job? #okleg #oklaed
    In reply to @James409Jason
  • DA_Houston Dec 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    It truly is personal but teachers have to eat. Cost of living is relatively lower in OK but bills travel, especially loans. #oklaed
    In reply to @jlreed2011